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    [img]graemlins/kiss.gif[/img] Z, hope you feel better soon.

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    Z--

    I asked in an earlier thread if there were any bioterror links that you recommended. I don't know if you answered because I forget which thread I asked the question. If you did answer, I missed it. Would you refer me to a good bioterror site?

    What do you think of this one?

    http://www.apic.org/bioterror/

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    and here is the CDC link. What do you think of this one?

    http://www.bt.cdc.gov/

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    Sorry Lars:

    I've been sick [a non-bioterrorist event [img]biggrin.gif[/img] ]. I didn't see your previous post. As to web sites, I don't know of any reliable sites on bioterrorism. If you want a site describing the possible organisms or toxins used, the CDC site would be a good one.

    My information comes from non-public sources. First, my own research [note; I have never worked on biological weapons]. Part of my research program was, for about 15 years, centered on aflatoxin. Second; I was one of the founders of a company on 128 whose sole purpose was defense against biological weapons [it still exists]. Third, I have oversight responsibility for this stuff at the moment. I am on private list-serves from CDC, FDA, NIH, ect. on the subject. Just talk about what I know. Which isn't as much as the folks on TB2K seem to know. [img]cool.gif[/img]

    Best Wishes,,,,,,

    Z

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    Thanks, hope you're feeling better

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    Lars:

    Here is the original list of select agents we received on 6 Aug 02. It is a felony to possess any of these [even in diagnostic samples] without proper notification. As the law is written, this list will continuously change.

    Viruses

    1. Crimean-Congo haemorrhagic fever virus
    2. Eastern Equine Encephalitis virus
    3. Ebola viruses
    4. Equine Morbillivirus
    5. Lassa fever virus
    6. Marburg virus
    7. Rift Valley fever virus
    8. South American Haemorrhagic fever viruses (Junin, Machupo, Sabia, Flexal, Guanarito)
    9. Tick-borne encephalitis complex viruses
    10. Variola major virus (Smallpox virus)
    11. Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis virus
    12. Viruses causing hantavirus pulmonary syndrome
    13. Yellow fever virus

    Exemptions: Vaccine strains of viral agents (Junin Virus strain candid #1, Rift Valley fever virus strain MP-12, Venezuelan Equine encephalitis virus strain TC-83, Yellow fever virus strain 17-D) are exempt.


    Bacteria

    1. Bacillus anthracis
    2. Brucella abortus, B. melitensis, B. suis
    3. Burkholderia (Pseudomonas) mallei
    4. Burkholderia (Pseudomonas) pseudomallei
    5. Clostridium botulinum
    6. Francisella tularensis
    7. Yersinia pestis

    Exemptions: vaccine strains as described in Title 9 CFR, Part 78.1 are exempt.


    Rickettsiae

    1. Coxiella burnetii
    2. Rickettsia prowazekii
    3. Rickettsia rickettsii


    Fungi

    1. Coccidioides immitis


    Toxins

    1. Abrin
    2. Aflatoxins
    3. Botulinum toxins
    4. Clostridium perfringens epsilon toxin
    5. Conotoxins
    6. Diacetoxyscirpenol
    7. Ricin
    8. Saxitoxin
    9. Shigatoxin
    10. Staphylococcal enterotoxins
    11. Tetrodotoxin
    12. T-2 toxin

    African horsesickness
    African swine fever
    Bluetongue (exotic)
    Classical swine fever
    Contagious bovine pleuropneumonia
    Foot-and-mouth disease
    Highly pathogenic avian influenza
    Lumpy skin disease
    Newcastle disease (exotic)
    Peste des petits ruminants
    Rinderpest
    Sheep pox and goat pox
    Swine vesicular disease
    Vesicular stomatitis (exotic)
    Bovine spongiform encephalopathy
    Cowdria ruminantium (heartwater)
    Japanese encephalitis virus
    Malignant catarrhal fever
    Contagious caprine pleuropneumonia

    Akabane virus
    camel pox virus
    Menangle virus
    Nipah virus

    Liberobacter africanus, Liberobacter asiaticus
    Peronosclerospora philippinensis
    Phakopsora pachyrhizi
    Plum pox potyvirus
    Ralstonia solanacearum Race 3
    Sclerophthora rayssiae var. zeae
    Synchytrium endobioticum
    Xanthomonas oryzae pv. oryzicola
    Xylella fastidiosa (citrus variegated chlorosis strain)

    You can find out about any of these by going to google. This will save you time.

    Best Wishes,,,,,

    Z

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    My foot-in-mouth disease is congenital. Physicians tell me it is not highly contagious. There is a genetic predisposition and toilet seats are suspect, especially Afghanian toilet seats.

    That is not a major problem since there are so few ATSs.

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    If it's illegal to possess those in even diagnostic samples, how are you going to find out if a patient has one of them? Is the next step to make it illegal to be a "carrier" of them? This sounds like bizarre legislation to me.

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    Tricia:

    Technically, if you do diagnosis which is positive, you must immediately report it and secure the samples. You need to exclude nationals of a number of named countries from the building. The ARS has been enforcing more stringent rules [the non-numbered agents are from APHIS]. This will eventually be something that can be done at large institutions. Don't know what small rural vets will do. Yes, the first two people arrested under the act were arrested for possessing unreported diagnositic samples. Just depends on who they want to prosecute. Technically, a person who doesn't report such things can look at vacation time in eastern Kansas. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

    Wonder what I've been doing for the last two months?

    Best Wishes,,,,,,

    Z

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    Note to self: never, repeat NEVER, rummaqge through Z's medicine cabinet!

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